Comments on: When is a Scrum Master (or a PM) Not? http://jrothman.com/blog/mpd/2008/01/when-is-a-scrum-master-or-a-pm-not.html Management, especially good management, is hard to do. This blog is for people who want to think about how they manage people, projects, and risk. Fri, 04 Jul 2008 12:54:39 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.2.3 By: Ashwin http://jrothman.com/blog/mpd/2008/01/when-is-a-scrum-master-or-a-pm-not.html#comment-4362 Ashwin Sun, 10 Feb 2008 04:52:59 +0000 http://jrothman.com/blog/mpd/2008/01/when-is-a-scrum-master-or-a-pm-not.html#comment-4362 @ Craig: "Won’t an experienced and talented team just deliver regardless of the process?" In what I have seen in my own experience... Not all the time! They have to follow 'some' process and they may pull it off, somehow, but the effort would have been so much easier if everyone followed the same set of rules/guidelines/framework, whatever. "ANd doesn’t that indicate that the process is relatively unimportant?" Process is only as important as much it helps you to deliver. So, I would say that I disagree with your conclusion. Now, if you are talking about a process that exists just for the sake of process and not helping in delivering value... then you have a point. @ Craig:
“Won’t an experienced and talented team just deliver regardless of the process?”

In what I have seen in my own experience… Not all the time! They have to follow ’some’ process and they may pull it off, somehow, but the effort would have been so much easier if everyone followed the same set of rules/guidelines/framework, whatever.

“ANd doesn’t that indicate that the process is relatively unimportant?”

Process is only as important as much it helps you to deliver. So, I would say that I disagree with your conclusion.

Now, if you are talking about a process that exists just for the sake of process and not helping in delivering value… then you have a point.

]]> By: Craig Brown http://jrothman.com/blog/mpd/2008/01/when-is-a-scrum-master-or-a-pm-not.html#comment-4273 Craig Brown Sun, 03 Feb 2008 12:15:56 +0000 http://jrothman.com/blog/mpd/2008/01/when-is-a-scrum-master-or-a-pm-not.html#comment-4273 Process, process, process. What about people? At the end of the day the process is just one of several enabers (alongside culture, technology and tools, etc.) Won't an experienced and talented team just deliver regardless of the process? ANd doesn't that indicate that the process is relatively unimportant? Process, process, process.

What about people? At the end of the day the process is just one of several enabers (alongside culture, technology and tools, etc.)

Won’t an experienced and talented team just deliver regardless of the process? ANd doesn’t that indicate that the process is relatively unimportant?

]]> By: Claude Emond http://jrothman.com/blog/mpd/2008/01/when-is-a-scrum-master-or-a-pm-not.html#comment-4020 Claude Emond Tue, 22 Jan 2008 14:09:06 +0000 http://jrothman.com/blog/mpd/2008/01/when-is-a-scrum-master-or-a-pm-not.html#comment-4020 I agree with Johanna. PMs have to be the guardians of the PM process they want to use. Project stakeholders that pretend to work on the team should accept to control their own actions within the process proposed and negotiated with the PM. You ask someone to facilitate a Scrum, you should trust him/her with the process and not try to denature it because it is new to you. Pms are not only facilitarors, thay also have to show the way, project-process wise I agree with Johanna. PMs have to be the guardians of the PM process they want to use. Project stakeholders that pretend to work on the team should accept to control their own actions within the process proposed and negotiated with the PM. You ask someone to facilitate a Scrum, you should trust him/her with the process and not try to denature it because it is new to you. Pms are not only facilitarors, thay also have to show the way, project-process wise

]]> By: Jason Yip http://jrothman.com/blog/mpd/2008/01/when-is-a-scrum-master-or-a-pm-not.html#comment-4018 Jason Yip Tue, 22 Jan 2008 09:32:31 +0000 http://jrothman.com/blog/mpd/2008/01/when-is-a-scrum-master-or-a-pm-not.html#comment-4018 I'm wary of "Effective PMs control the project's process" as I would expect the people actually doing the work to control their own process. I'd expect effective PMs/Scrum Masters/whatever to facilitate, engage, influence, etc. so that this can happen. I’m wary of “Effective PMs control the project’s process” as I would expect the people actually doing the work to control their own process. I’d expect effective PMs/Scrum Masters/whatever to facilitate, engage, influence, etc. so that this can happen.

]]>