http://jrothman.com/blog/mpd/2007/05/testing-is-not-a-service.html Management, especially good management, is hard to do. This blog is for people who want to think about how they manage people, projects, and risk. Thu, 08 Jan 2009 14:07:54 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7 hourly 1 http://jrothman.com/blog/mpd/2007/05/testing-is-not-a-service.html/comment-page-1#comment-546 Jared Thu, 17 May 2007 17:50:49 +0000 http://jrothman.com/blog/mpd/?p=7972#comment-546 Along similar lines to Dave's comment, I'm not sure that I completely understand 'service' either. Now, you've signed your name to the context-driven school (http://www.context-driven-testing.com/), and it has a section titled 'Illustrations of the principles in action'. There, we see: "Testing groups exist to provide testing-related services. They do not run the development project; they serve the project. Testing is done on behalf of stakeholders in the service of developing, qualifying, debugging, investigating, or selling a product" Care to clarify? I think it's something about the difference between providing (good) service and being a service, but it's impossible for me to disambiguate 'Testing is not a service'. Along similar lines to Dave’s comment, I’m not sure that I completely understand ’service’ either.
Now, you’ve signed your name to the context-driven school (http://www.context-driven-testing.com/), and it has a section titled ‘Illustrations of the principles in action’. There, we see:
“Testing groups exist to provide testing-related services. They do not run the development project; they serve the project.
Testing is done on behalf of stakeholders in the service of developing, qualifying, debugging, investigating, or selling a product”
Care to clarify? I think it’s something about the difference between providing (good) service and being a service, but it’s impossible for me to disambiguate ‘Testing is not a service’.

]]> http://jrothman.com/blog/mpd/2007/05/testing-is-not-a-service.html/comment-page-1#comment-545 Tanmay Thu, 17 May 2007 15:37:49 +0000 http://jrothman.com/blog/mpd/?p=7972#comment-545 "If you're a project manager don't treat testing as a service. Make it an integral part of development." - Well said! “If you’re a project manager don’t treat testing as a service. Make it an integral part of development.” - Well said!

]]> http://jrothman.com/blog/mpd/2007/05/testing-is-not-a-service.html/comment-page-1#comment-544 Dave Liebreich Thu, 17 May 2007 11:30:39 +0000 http://jrothman.com/blog/mpd/?p=7972#comment-544 Hi Johanna, I really want to have a conversation about this, because my first reaction was to disagree. But then I realised something . . . you have not defined "testing". What do you mean by "testing" ? Hi Johanna,
I really want to have a conversation about this, because my first reaction was to disagree. But then I realised something . . . you have not defined “testing”.
What do you mean by “testing” ?

]]> http://jrothman.com/blog/mpd/2007/05/testing-is-not-a-service.html/comment-page-1#comment-543 Carlton Wed, 16 May 2007 21:32:25 +0000 http://jrothman.com/blog/mpd/?p=7972#comment-543 I saw an even worse attitude interviewing with a premiere MS consulting shop - our customers won't pay for testing. Needless to say, I was surprised and thought to myself "Well, they already do. They just don't know it." I pretty much took myself out of consideration for the position. I saw an even worse attitude interviewing with a premiere MS consulting shop - our customers won’t pay for testing. Needless to say, I was surprised and thought to myself “Well, they already do. They just don’t know it.” I pretty much took myself out of consideration for the position.

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