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	<title>Comments on: Wading Through Applicants</title>
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	<description>Hiring technical people and being hired can be difficult, no matter what the economy is doing. Use the tips here to hire better, or find a new job.</description>
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		<title>By: Ted M. Young</title>
		<link>http://jrothman.com/blog/htp/2009/04/wading-through-applicants.html/comment-page-1#comment-5388</link>
		<dc:creator>Ted M. Young</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2009 19:35:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agree with George about inflated, or just wrong, job requirements.

btw, I&#039;d love to hear your thoughts on phone screens -- we&#039;ve been going back-and-forth about whether we can/should do technical phone screens (i.e., additional screen over and above what the recruiter does).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agree with George about inflated, or just wrong, job requirements.</p>
<p>btw, I&#8217;d love to hear your thoughts on phone screens &#8212; we&#8217;ve been going back-and-forth about whether we can/should do technical phone screens (i.e., additional screen over and above what the recruiter does).</p>
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		<title>By: George Dinwiddie</title>
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		<dc:creator>George Dinwiddie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 14:13:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent advice, Johanna.  I&#039;d like to add a caution to balance it.

Make sure your criteria is &lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;really&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; your criteria.  In other words, be careful about inflating your requirements just because you&#039;ve got a lot of applicants.

Ask yourself questions such as these:

 - Do I really need a Microsoft Word doc?  Or would a text file work just fine?  (P.S. if you give a text file a &quot;.doc&quot; extension, many people won&#039;t even notice it&#039;s not a Word file.  Word will happily convert it.)

 - Are the qualities, preferences, non-technical skills essential for this position?  Or are some of them just indicators I like to see?  (A friend was asked about blogging and public speaking in what was ostensibly a tech screening.)

 - Does the position &lt;em&gt;require&lt;/em&gt; that technical skill?  Or do I think that might be useful sometime in the future?  (I once interviewed for a Java position where they were doing Cobol work.  They just &lt;em&gt;hoped&lt;/em&gt; to do Java work in the future.  The funny thing is, the job listing didn&#039;t mention Cobol, and I didn&#039;t have any Cobol experience.)  Or would a skill with a similar technology and an aptitude for learning do just as well?  (I&#039;ve seen job postings that required experience with particular versions of particular tools or technologies.)

 - Are you being too specific about &quot;the way you do work.&quot;  Asking for experience with Agile or Iterative-Incremental lifecycles is one thing.  Rejecting someone with XP experience because your organization does Scrum is another.

The problem with inflating your &quot;requirements&quot; goes beyond missing out on qualified candidates, it &lt;em&gt;can&lt;/em&gt; result in a pool of &lt;em&gt;less qualified&lt;/em&gt; candidates for the job, though they&#039;re better qualified at covering all the bases on their resume.  And if your &quot;requirements&quot; don&#039;t really match the job, it may result in an unhappy hire that doesn&#039;t stick around very long.

My point is that even when it&#039;s a &quot;hiring manager&#039;s market,&quot; the hiring manager still needs to give the same level of attention to the process.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent advice, Johanna.  I&#8217;d like to add a caution to balance it.</p>
<p>Make sure your criteria is <strong><em>really</em></strong> your criteria.  In other words, be careful about inflating your requirements just because you&#8217;ve got a lot of applicants.</p>
<p>Ask yourself questions such as these:</p>
<p> &#8211; Do I really need a Microsoft Word doc?  Or would a text file work just fine?  (P.S. if you give a text file a &#8220;.doc&#8221; extension, many people won&#8217;t even notice it&#8217;s not a Word file.  Word will happily convert it.)</p>
<p> &#8211; Are the qualities, preferences, non-technical skills essential for this position?  Or are some of them just indicators I like to see?  (A friend was asked about blogging and public speaking in what was ostensibly a tech screening.)</p>
<p> &#8211; Does the position <em>require</em> that technical skill?  Or do I think that might be useful sometime in the future?  (I once interviewed for a Java position where they were doing Cobol work.  They just <em>hoped</em> to do Java work in the future.  The funny thing is, the job listing didn&#8217;t mention Cobol, and I didn&#8217;t have any Cobol experience.)  Or would a skill with a similar technology and an aptitude for learning do just as well?  (I&#8217;ve seen job postings that required experience with particular versions of particular tools or technologies.)</p>
<p> &#8211; Are you being too specific about &#8220;the way you do work.&#8221;  Asking for experience with Agile or Iterative-Incremental lifecycles is one thing.  Rejecting someone with XP experience because your organization does Scrum is another.</p>
<p>The problem with inflating your &#8220;requirements&#8221; goes beyond missing out on qualified candidates, it <em>can</em> result in a pool of <em>less qualified</em> candidates for the job, though they&#8217;re better qualified at covering all the bases on their resume.  And if your &#8220;requirements&#8221; don&#8217;t really match the job, it may result in an unhappy hire that doesn&#8217;t stick around very long.</p>
<p>My point is that even when it&#8217;s a &#8220;hiring manager&#8217;s market,&#8221; the hiring manager still needs to give the same level of attention to the process.</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
		<link>http://jrothman.com/blog/htp/2009/04/wading-through-applicants.html/comment-page-1#comment-5132</link>
		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 14:51:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Job Analsis link is broken, but I&#039;d love to see what&#039;s supposed to be there :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Job Analsis link is broken, but I&#8217;d love to see what&#8217;s supposed to be there <img src='http://jrothman.com/blog/htp/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: HR World &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Wednesday Links: HR Webinar, A Hiring Manager&#8217;s Market, Those Pesky Break Things</title>
		<link>http://jrothman.com/blog/htp/2009/04/wading-through-applicants.html/comment-page-1#comment-5131</link>
		<dc:creator>HR World &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Wednesday Links: HR Webinar, A Hiring Manager&#8217;s Market, Those Pesky Break Things</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 11:52:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Hiring Technical People says that it&#8217;s a hiring manager&#8217;s market. With the amount of people seeking jobs, that couldn&#8217;t be more right. [...]</description>
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