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		<title>By: Measuring productivity? &#171; Our Craft</title>
		<link>http://jrothman.com/blog/htp/2008/07/why-hire-junior-contractors.html/comment-page-1#comment-4986</link>
		<dc:creator>Measuring productivity? &#171; Our Craft</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 14:41:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: How to measure productivity? &#171; Our Craft</title>
		<link>http://jrothman.com/blog/htp/2008/07/why-hire-junior-contractors.html/comment-page-1#comment-4985</link>
		<dc:creator>How to measure productivity? &#171; Our Craft</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 14:40:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Lui Sieh</title>
		<link>http://jrothman.com/blog/htp/2008/07/why-hire-junior-contractors.html/comment-page-1#comment-4781</link>
		<dc:creator>Lui Sieh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 08:27:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi George,

Sure, managers of all stripes will hire and use junior contractors, but to me, that&#039;s akin to playing russian roulette with your operations and projects.  The supposed cost savings evaporates from the rework that inevitably happens when using junior contractors.  Just don&#039;t do it unless there&#039;s a way to provide the necessary support.  Otherwise, you&#039;re asking for a lot of trouble for not alot of upside.  My personal experience says that a truly qualified senior contractor is worth many times the junior contractors available out there.  I&#039;d hold out and negotiate it as a cost savings.  

As for using junior contracts on projects as Shree points out, yes, that&#039;s fine because there&#039;s senior oversight.  What so often happens is that senior oversight is non-existent and junior contractor is asked to perform outside his/her competency and the fire fighting begins.  Personally, I&#039;d rather pay a senior contractor to do something faster and with better quality than a junior contractor cheaper, unknown quality, and often longer time.  

This isn&#039;t to say there aren&#039;t any good junior contractors out there - there are - however, caveat emptor.  All of this is of course dependent on the company&#039;s environment and needs.

But that&#039;s just IMHO.

Cheers</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi George,</p>
<p>Sure, managers of all stripes will hire and use junior contractors, but to me, that&#8217;s akin to playing russian roulette with your operations and projects.  The supposed cost savings evaporates from the rework that inevitably happens when using junior contractors.  Just don&#8217;t do it unless there&#8217;s a way to provide the necessary support.  Otherwise, you&#8217;re asking for a lot of trouble for not alot of upside.  My personal experience says that a truly qualified senior contractor is worth many times the junior contractors available out there.  I&#8217;d hold out and negotiate it as a cost savings.  </p>
<p>As for using junior contracts on projects as Shree points out, yes, that&#8217;s fine because there&#8217;s senior oversight.  What so often happens is that senior oversight is non-existent and junior contractor is asked to perform outside his/her competency and the fire fighting begins.  Personally, I&#8217;d rather pay a senior contractor to do something faster and with better quality than a junior contractor cheaper, unknown quality, and often longer time.  </p>
<p>This isn&#8217;t to say there aren&#8217;t any good junior contractors out there &#8211; there are &#8211; however, caveat emptor.  All of this is of course dependent on the company&#8217;s environment and needs.</p>
<p>But that&#8217;s just IMHO.</p>
<p>Cheers</p>
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		<title>By: Shree</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shree</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 19:35:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Been there, Done that....

Not sure about the corporate policies, But being a Senior Consultant myself, I would always like to have a junior consultant to shadow me, as a way to express/share my knowledge and to make that person competant (My ego satisfied). There are things that I hate to do over and over again for years, and I would provide my best (Combined ROI is much higher), when these day to day tasks are handled by a junior (A benefit to the company)....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Been there, Done that&#8230;.</p>
<p>Not sure about the corporate policies, But being a Senior Consultant myself, I would always like to have a junior consultant to shadow me, as a way to express/share my knowledge and to make that person competant (My ego satisfied). There are things that I hate to do over and over again for years, and I would provide my best (Combined ROI is much higher), when these day to day tasks are handled by a junior (A benefit to the company)&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: MN Headhunter</title>
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		<dc:creator>MN Headhunter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 17:14:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do not disagree with the perspective you all have, particularly when they are used as cost saving, but if we do not hire junior developers how they gain the experience to be a senior developer?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do not disagree with the perspective you all have, particularly when they are used as cost saving, but if we do not hire junior developers how they gain the experience to be a senior developer?</p>
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		<title>By: George Dinwiddie</title>
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		<dc:creator>George Dinwiddie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Aug 2008 20:57:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lui, I don&#039;t believe that &quot;only inexperienced managers hire junior contractors.&quot;  In fact, I&#039;ve seen otherwise.

I do believe that in some companies the corporate contracting office, in an attempt to save the company money in the only way available to them, set rates that ensure only junior contractors can be hired.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lui, I don&#8217;t believe that &#8220;only inexperienced managers hire junior contractors.&#8221;  In fact, I&#8217;ve seen otherwise.</p>
<p>I do believe that in some companies the corporate contracting office, in an attempt to save the company money in the only way available to them, set rates that ensure only junior contractors can be hired.</p>
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		<title>By: Lui Sieh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lui Sieh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 15:37:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Overall I agree with Johanna. Hiring anyone &quot;junior&quot; is a monumental waste of time and surely to piss off one&#039;s own team to &#039;babysit&quot;.  Adding to the injury, you&#039;re probably providing a poor example to the junior contractor who&#039;s going to learn a lot of bad things - as the environment is not optimal.

Now as to the appearance of doing something, at the end of the day (yes there are end of the days for projects as forever that may be sometimes), the free lunch stops and an accounting will happen.  It might cost a few people their jobs...hopefully not one&#039;s own!

Only inexperienced managers hire &quot;junior contractors&quot; or management consultants as the case may be...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Overall I agree with Johanna. Hiring anyone &#8220;junior&#8221; is a monumental waste of time and surely to piss off one&#8217;s own team to &#8216;babysit&#8221;.  Adding to the injury, you&#8217;re probably providing a poor example to the junior contractor who&#8217;s going to learn a lot of bad things &#8211; as the environment is not optimal.</p>
<p>Now as to the appearance of doing something, at the end of the day (yes there are end of the days for projects as forever that may be sometimes), the free lunch stops and an accounting will happen.  It might cost a few people their jobs&#8230;hopefully not one&#8217;s own!</p>
<p>Only inexperienced managers hire &#8220;junior contractors&#8221; or management consultants as the case may be&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Dwayne Phillips</title>
		<link>http://jrothman.com/blog/htp/2008/07/why-hire-junior-contractors.html/comment-page-1#comment-4166</link>
		<dc:creator>Dwayne Phillips</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 12:28:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why hire junior contractor programmers?

(1) It looks like you are doing something.
(2) It doesn&#039;t cost much money.

Of course it is a waste of money, but often (1) is what people are after, mere appearance (see, for example, Congress, U.S.).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why hire junior contractor programmers?</p>
<p>(1) It looks like you are doing something.<br />
(2) It doesn&#8217;t cost much money.</p>
<p>Of course it is a waste of money, but often (1) is what people are after, mere appearance (see, for example, Congress, U.S.).</p>
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